Phaedrus Part I
The language in Phaedrus confuses me. In the beginning it seems as though Socrates is playing a mind game with Phaedrus, at first he wants him to recite the speech from memory, but then Socrates notices the scroll and asks him to read it. There is a long monologue about the lover and non-lover, I assume they are speaking about communication. Phaedrus reads Lysis and then discusses how the non-lover is preferred for his ability to be his own person, and a stronger friend. Phaedrus seems to be saying true rhetoric does not spoil, is honest, and not a fickle friend.
Phaedrus part II
Since, Phaedrus focused on the non-lover in his discourse, Socrates believes it is important to go through the characteristics of the lover. Socrates talks about there are two human principles. These principles are desire and judgment. He discusses how following judgment is for the better, but desire can be a hindrance. He then discusses the noble madness of love. He uses the analogy of the chariot and horses. The one horse is upright and guided by words and motion. He is loving, honorable, and modest. The other horse is deaf, proud and insolent. I think the point of this passage is there are two kinds of rhetoric. Rhetoricians can use judgment and follow words and guidance, or they can use desire and not listen to others and stand proud even with lack of knowledge.
Phaedrus part III
In the last section, what stood out most to me was the discourse on the importance and power of the art of rhetoric. They discuss the potential of rhetoric’s influence in public meetings, but also how in these meetings rhetoric may be manipulated and/or superficial for the benefit of the speaker. Phaedrus asks how true the art of rhetoric can be achieved. Socrates discusses how this is not just something that can be learned as an art, but rhetoric is also a gift. Socrates also discusses how it is similar to medicine, as it is words of virtue that feed the soul, and that is found in truth. This section was the easiest for me to understand because I felt it was relatable, we often have superficial discourse, and truth is something that is helpful for the soul to consume.
You have briefly summarized some of the basic concepts in this passage. I agree that the third section seems more practical -- and easiest to understand. There are some major metaphors of the soul -- and of love that are more difficult to unpack.
ReplyDeleteWhat discussion questions would you ask?